gwen: let me ask john this, what happened this week, kicking in the debt ceiling deadline farther away, was that rigging? was that government book keeping in the eyes of the leaders here in washington? >> i think it's adjusting the game and changing some of the contours of the game and making sure that the contest did not have the same kind of heat and high stakes for the economy for markets, for everybody's 401-k out there that people perceived and if we really got up to the brink of a potential default or united states not being able to meet all of its obligations, you know, i'm not sure on the point that bobby jindal and others were making at the meeting in north carolina, i'm not sure the -- what republicans are about, if they're not talking about the size of government, cost of government, tax and spending issues, they will have to deal with those but at the moment they didn't want to deal with them in quite such a pressurized environment so john boehner was able to convince his caucus to accept the council to move past the debt limit. they're now shifting to other fiscal fights a